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		<title>Comment on How to Read Media Coverage of Scientific Research: Sorting Out the Stupid Science from Smart Science by Jim Cahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, and spot on. One correction: where you say &quot;If I had been the journal editor reviewing this study, I doubt I would’ve published it.&quot; If the study was well structured, but the conclusions were problematic, our issue should be only with the unsupported claims and not with the methodology. Negative findings can be very useful and should be published (more often than they are). If this study shows very little difference in the genotype, and is methodologically sound, that&#039;s of real value and can lead to new avenues of inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, and spot on. One correction: where you say &#8220;If I had been the journal editor reviewing this study, I doubt I would’ve published it.&#8221; If the study was well structured, but the conclusions were problematic, our issue should be only with the unsupported claims and not with the methodology. Negative findings can be very useful and should be published (more often than they are). If this study shows very little difference in the genotype, and is methodologically sound, that&#8217;s of real value and can lead to new avenues of inquiry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Read Media Coverage of Scientific Research: Sorting Out the Stupid Science from Smart Science by WCY</title>
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		<dc:creator>WCY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good information for the lay audience.

I am fortunate that I know how to distinguish good science from bad science.  Oftentime, we are fooled by the numbers and statistics.  Good science should have 1. a hypothesis, 2. design key experiments to address the unanswered questions, 3. use appropriate statistical analysis to determine if the findings are significantly different/similar from the null hypothesis, and 4. is reproducible.

To ensure that the research work is scientifically sound, one should also check the impact factor (# of articles cited per year)of the journal even if it is peer-reviewed.  In general, the journal within a particular field is considered secondary if the impact factor is below 5, and is considered prestigious if the impact factor is above 10. 

p.s. first time visitor for Psychology Lounge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good information for the lay audience.</p>
<p>I am fortunate that I know how to distinguish good science from bad science.  Oftentime, we are fooled by the numbers and statistics.  Good science should have 1. a hypothesis, 2. design key experiments to address the unanswered questions, 3. use appropriate statistical analysis to determine if the findings are significantly different/similar from the null hypothesis, and 4. is reproducible.</p>
<p>To ensure that the research work is scientifically sound, one should also check the impact factor (# of articles cited per year)of the journal even if it is peer-reviewed.  In general, the journal within a particular field is considered secondary if the impact factor is below 5, and is considered prestigious if the impact factor is above 10. </p>
<p>p.s. first time visitor for Psychology Lounge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Want to Sleep Better? Get Brief CBT-I Therapy for Sleep Instead of Sleeping Pills by Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly my questions. I don&#039;t know, but I will find out. The control group read some materials that were general on sleep, but not the CBT sleep model. Great questions, and I will see if I can contact the authors and find out the answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly my questions. I don&#8217;t know, but I will find out. The control group read some materials that were general on sleep, but not the CBT sleep model. Great questions, and I will see if I can contact the authors and find out the answers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Want to Sleep Better? Get Brief CBT-I Therapy for Sleep Instead of Sleeping Pills by Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Did the study outline the format of the two sessions that totaled 90 minutes? Did they cover any more than just reviewing these four rules? Why two sessions?

Did the control group have two &quot;mock&quot; therapy sessions in which these rules were not discussed? 

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Did the study outline the format of the two sessions that totaled 90 minutes? Did they cover any more than just reviewing these four rules? Why two sessions?</p>
<p>Did the control group have two &#8220;mock&#8221; therapy sessions in which these rules were not discussed? </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Not Tonight Dear”                                                    Why Couples Stop Having Sex (and what you can do about it) by p</title>
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		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew:

This is a very valuable article - even thought i&#039;ve previously taken a 5-session sex therapy class previously, I learned some new things from your article, including the Internet Porn info.

Have you read Spousonomics?  this is a book from my discipline, Economics, but links with yours i.e. Behavioral Economics.  They have wonderful tools to deal with spousal issues, including sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew:</p>
<p>This is a very valuable article &#8211; even thought i&#8217;ve previously taken a 5-session sex therapy class previously, I learned some new things from your article, including the Internet Porn info.</p>
<p>Have you read Spousonomics?  this is a book from my discipline, Economics, but links with yours i.e. Behavioral Economics.  They have wonderful tools to deal with spousal issues, including sex.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Read Media Coverage of Scientific Research: Sorting Out the Stupid Science from Smart Science by Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the interesting comment. I suspect one of the main problems with most research is that it is naturally biased by profit or success motives. As much medical research is funded by drug companies or device manufacturers, there is a natural bias towards amplifying weak results, and then hyping them in the media. Government studies have less profit motive, but often have success bias, as no one wants to be the principal investigator on a 20 million dollar, ten year study that failed to get results. I don&#039;t have a good solution other than to always read between the lines, look at the actual numbers and effect sizes, apply large doses of common sense and skepticism and keep taking those little yellow pills! (Although given the latest results on placebos, I like those more, since they have no side effects, and sugar pills are really really cheap!) The bottom line is that everything we know for sure is probably wrong, and the road to knowledge is paved with much confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the interesting comment. I suspect one of the main problems with most research is that it is naturally biased by profit or success motives. As much medical research is funded by drug companies or device manufacturers, there is a natural bias towards amplifying weak results, and then hyping them in the media. Government studies have less profit motive, but often have success bias, as no one wants to be the principal investigator on a 20 million dollar, ten year study that failed to get results. I don&#8217;t have a good solution other than to always read between the lines, look at the actual numbers and effect sizes, apply large doses of common sense and skepticism and keep taking those little yellow pills! (Although given the latest results on placebos, I like those more, since they have no side effects, and sugar pills are really really cheap!) The bottom line is that everything we know for sure is probably wrong, and the road to knowledge is paved with much confusion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Read Media Coverage of Scientific Research: Sorting Out the Stupid Science from Smart Science by Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  But we owe it to ourselves, as long as we&#039;re going to read pro lit (for what its worth), or base our discussions on pro lit, to learn about how it works, and not to trust it automatically.  Having read about the many studies that  have weak, or tainted, or doctored outcomes; knowing the power of the Rosenthal Effect; and sometimes simply re-reading &quot;How to Lie with Statistics&quot; or some other similar book, I consider myself a reasonably informed, if rather skeptical consumer: I know what&#039;s going on, I&#039;m probably well- protected against getting hoodwinked, I&#039;m generally able to separate the wheat from the chaff.... so I go back and read the literature hoping to dredge up some encouraging possibilities...and I find that the state of the current art in just about everything  is so depressing that I have to take a couple of those little yellow pills (the ones that peer-reviewed j0urnals have concluded have little more effect than placebos) in order to feel better. And sometimes I actually do feel better.  Seems like there&#039;s something wrong here, but I&#039;m feeling too down today to try to figure out what it is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  But we owe it to ourselves, as long as we&#8217;re going to read pro lit (for what its worth), or base our discussions on pro lit, to learn about how it works, and not to trust it automatically.  Having read about the many studies that  have weak, or tainted, or doctored outcomes; knowing the power of the Rosenthal Effect; and sometimes simply re-reading &#8220;How to Lie with Statistics&#8221; or some other similar book, I consider myself a reasonably informed, if rather skeptical consumer: I know what&#8217;s going on, I&#8217;m probably well- protected against getting hoodwinked, I&#8217;m generally able to separate the wheat from the chaff&#8230;. so I go back and read the literature hoping to dredge up some encouraging possibilities&#8230;and I find that the state of the current art in just about everything  is so depressing that I have to take a couple of those little yellow pills (the ones that peer-reviewed j0urnals have concluded have little more effect than placebos) in order to feel better. And sometimes I actually do feel better.  Seems like there&#8217;s something wrong here, but I&#8217;m feeling too down today to try to figure out what it is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Radical Non-Defensiveness: The Most Important Communication Skill by Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 03:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for another great question.

This is a very complex question. First of all, I totally agree that the first job of non-defensive listening is listening. Jumping to solutions or problem solving too quickly can further annoy the other person. That said, just empathizing without any apology, problem solving, or effort to resolve the problem will also tend to annoy most people. So it&#039;s a delicate balance.

Your second question was about how to respond non-defensively to an accusation of &quot;I can&#039;t ever trust you again.&quot; First of all, you have to look at the truth behind the criticism. Is there some way in which you have been genuinely untrustworthy?  Or is this an over-generalization? If the former, an honest acknowledgment of truth in the criticism might start the conversation. If the latter, I&#039;d find &lt;strong&gt;some truth&lt;/strong&gt; in the criticism and acknowledge that. I&#039;d certainly want to hear more details about how the other person has come to this conclusion...&quot;tell me more.&quot; can be a good way to get at this.

Remember, acknowledging some truth can be as simple as &quot;I realize I let you down when I did ________.&quot; 

These skills are subtle, and that&#039;s why I teach them in therapy and role-play them extensively with both couples and individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another great question.</p>
<p>This is a very complex question. First of all, I totally agree that the first job of non-defensive listening is listening. Jumping to solutions or problem solving too quickly can further annoy the other person. That said, just empathizing without any apology, problem solving, or effort to resolve the problem will also tend to annoy most people. So it&#8217;s a delicate balance.</p>
<p>Your second question was about how to respond non-defensively to an accusation of &#8220;I can&#8217;t ever trust you again.&#8221; First of all, you have to look at the truth behind the criticism. Is there some way in which you have been genuinely untrustworthy?  Or is this an over-generalization? If the former, an honest acknowledgment of truth in the criticism might start the conversation. If the latter, I&#8217;d find <strong>some truth</strong> in the criticism and acknowledge that. I&#8217;d certainly want to hear more details about how the other person has come to this conclusion&#8230;&#8221;tell me more.&#8221; can be a good way to get at this.</p>
<p>Remember, acknowledging some truth can be as simple as &#8220;I realize I let you down when I did ________.&#8221; </p>
<p>These skills are subtle, and that&#8217;s why I teach them in therapy and role-play them extensively with both couples and individuals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Radical Non-Defensiveness: The Most Important Communication Skill by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for your response.  I had a couple follow up questions if you don&#039;t mind.  I looked into David Burn&#039;s Five Secrets and he seems to advocate saving problem solving until later in the whole conversation process.  My understanding of his reasoning is that problem solving too early can prevent people from expressing their frustration, anger, etc.  I&#039;m curious about your perspective on this.  Do you think it matters much in the grand scheme or is it more of a situation by situation issue?

Here&#039;s a couple examples to maybe help clarify:

Imagine your friend/wife/etc says the following after you have let them down a number of times in the past...
&quot;How can I ever trust you again!?&quot;
&quot;I told you I could never trust you again!&quot;

Those seem hard to disarm to me without affirming your untrustworthiness.  If you say, &quot;You know I am untrustworthy at times&quot; that doesn&#039;t seem like it&#039;s going to encourage people to change their perspective, but saying &quot;I am trustworthy just give me one more chance!&quot; also obviously isn&#039;t going to make too much headway either.  This is also a place where the difference between problem solving early vs. waiting could be important.  If someone is as upset as they likely would be above, how are you supposed to get them back on your side?  Does early problem solving trivialize what they might be feeling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for your response.  I had a couple follow up questions if you don&#8217;t mind.  I looked into David Burn&#8217;s Five Secrets and he seems to advocate saving problem solving until later in the whole conversation process.  My understanding of his reasoning is that problem solving too early can prevent people from expressing their frustration, anger, etc.  I&#8217;m curious about your perspective on this.  Do you think it matters much in the grand scheme or is it more of a situation by situation issue?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a couple examples to maybe help clarify:</p>
<p>Imagine your friend/wife/etc says the following after you have let them down a number of times in the past&#8230;<br />
&#8220;How can I ever trust you again!?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I told you I could never trust you again!&#8221;</p>
<p>Those seem hard to disarm to me without affirming your untrustworthiness.  If you say, &#8220;You know I am untrustworthy at times&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t seem like it&#8217;s going to encourage people to change their perspective, but saying &#8220;I am trustworthy just give me one more chance!&#8221; also obviously isn&#8217;t going to make too much headway either.  This is also a place where the difference between problem solving early vs. waiting could be important.  If someone is as upset as they likely would be above, how are you supposed to get them back on your side?  Does early problem solving trivialize what they might be feeling?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Radical Non-Defensiveness: The Most Important Communication Skill by Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve, thanks for the interesting comments. The key with a grain of truth is that it actually has to be accurate. So if someone called you the &quot;biggest loser in the world&quot;, I might say &quot;you know you sound really frustrated with me. I do make a lot of mistakes and I&#039;ve obviously made a big one with you. Can you tell me more about it? What specifically are you frustrated by?&quot; Most of the time the negative labeling the people use is just a sign of their frustration, and isn&#039;t even really what they want to say to you.

Generally these skills are best used with people that you have a relationship with that you care about. If someone&#039;s just being a jerk, you can simply ignore them or to avoid them. If anything I think nondefensive responding is more honest and less manipulative than most of what people do.

The other issue that a lot of people worry about is the whole doormat issue. But the truth is is that getting defensive typically makes people more critical and more abusive towards you. Unless you escalate into high-level hostility, you&#039;ll probably end up being a doormat anyway. If you instead respond non-defensively you stay calm and can certainly be assertive. So that&#039;s really the opposite of being a doormat. Non-defensiveness is never about apologizing at its core. Sometimes an apology is appropriate, but most of the time it&#039;s better to actually suggest problem-solving or problem resolution. Talk is cheap, and most people prefer to be heard and for a solution to be proposed rather than a simple apology.

Your comment at the end about perfectionism is an important one. Most of us are really remarkably perfectionist about ourselves, so it&#039;s very hard to admit openly and are flaws and weaknesses. We assume that people will attack us if we do so. But getting defensive about these flaws almost guarantees that people will counterattack. The truth is we are all very flawed human beings. The sooner we accept that, the happier we can be. The core of non-defensiveness is a lack ego and a loss of perfectionism. Thanks for encouraging me to think more about this.

Your response</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve, thanks for the interesting comments. The key with a grain of truth is that it actually has to be accurate. So if someone called you the &#8220;biggest loser in the world&#8221;, I might say &#8220;you know you sound really frustrated with me. I do make a lot of mistakes and I&#8217;ve obviously made a big one with you. Can you tell me more about it? What specifically are you frustrated by?&#8221; Most of the time the negative labeling the people use is just a sign of their frustration, and isn&#8217;t even really what they want to say to you.</p>
<p>Generally these skills are best used with people that you have a relationship with that you care about. If someone&#8217;s just being a jerk, you can simply ignore them or to avoid them. If anything I think nondefensive responding is more honest and less manipulative than most of what people do.</p>
<p>The other issue that a lot of people worry about is the whole doormat issue. But the truth is is that getting defensive typically makes people more critical and more abusive towards you. Unless you escalate into high-level hostility, you&#8217;ll probably end up being a doormat anyway. If you instead respond non-defensively you stay calm and can certainly be assertive. So that&#8217;s really the opposite of being a doormat. Non-defensiveness is never about apologizing at its core. Sometimes an apology is appropriate, but most of the time it&#8217;s better to actually suggest problem-solving or problem resolution. Talk is cheap, and most people prefer to be heard and for a solution to be proposed rather than a simple apology.</p>
<p>Your comment at the end about perfectionism is an important one. Most of us are really remarkably perfectionist about ourselves, so it&#8217;s very hard to admit openly and are flaws and weaknesses. We assume that people will attack us if we do so. But getting defensive about these flaws almost guarantees that people will counterattack. The truth is we are all very flawed human beings. The sooner we accept that, the happier we can be. The core of non-defensiveness is a lack ego and a loss of perfectionism. Thanks for encouraging me to think more about this.</p>
<p>Your response</p>
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		<title>Comment on Radical Non-Defensiveness: The Most Important Communication Skill by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few questions:

Is the &quot;grain of truth&quot; approach dishonest?  For example, if someone calls you &quot;the biggest loser in the world&quot; and you say, &quot;You know I agree.  I have been rude and inconsiderate to you lately.&quot;  You don&#039;t really agree with their global criticism.  So when you say you agree are you being manipulative or is it reasonable in this case because their initial criticism was an irrational global label anyways?  I guess I have had a few stumbling blocks and the &quot;manipulative, dishonest&quot; part was one.  

Another was that I fear that the non-defensive approach sets you up to be agreeable.  It seems like people have free reign to say whatever they want to you and you are just going to agree in some fashion.  Does this set you up to be a doormat?  

I guess I just have this inclination that non-defensiveness is passive and agreeable or even apologetic.  But perhaps this is just ego and the perfectionistic influence in me crying out for the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions:</p>
<p>Is the &#8220;grain of truth&#8221; approach dishonest?  For example, if someone calls you &#8220;the biggest loser in the world&#8221; and you say, &#8220;You know I agree.  I have been rude and inconsiderate to you lately.&#8221;  You don&#8217;t really agree with their global criticism.  So when you say you agree are you being manipulative or is it reasonable in this case because their initial criticism was an irrational global label anyways?  I guess I have had a few stumbling blocks and the &#8220;manipulative, dishonest&#8221; part was one.  </p>
<p>Another was that I fear that the non-defensive approach sets you up to be agreeable.  It seems like people have free reign to say whatever they want to you and you are just going to agree in some fashion.  Does this set you up to be a doormat?  </p>
<p>I guess I just have this inclination that non-defensiveness is passive and agreeable or even apologetic.  But perhaps this is just ego and the perfectionistic influence in me crying out for the status quo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Not Tonight Dear”                                                    Why Couples Stop Having Sex (and what you can do about it) by J-</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems a bit simplistic (which is surprising coming from you!) In my (very limited) experience, the problem has a long complex history. For example, a friend of mine who&#039;s wife finally left him (really, this isn&#039;t me -- my wife and I are still together!) sort of fit into the internet porn category, but even so, the history and specifics of this were extremely complex, including their having had physical problems before that which led him to the porn, and then him getting interested not in &quot;classical&quot; models but other things (that we don&#039;t need to go into), and him trying to get her into that mode, which didn&#039;t really turn her on, etc. etc. into a downward spiral. I think that you should write more about the concept of the downward spiral (what pilots call a &quot;death spiral&quot;), and how many of the things that you write about contribute to the many parts of that spiral, but which, generally, in-and-of-themselves (that is, taken separately) are probably too simple to explain the complexities of relationship (or even individual) problems. ... But you know this! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems a bit simplistic (which is surprising coming from you!) In my (very limited) experience, the problem has a long complex history. For example, a friend of mine who&#8217;s wife finally left him (really, this isn&#8217;t me &#8212; my wife and I are still together!) sort of fit into the internet porn category, but even so, the history and specifics of this were extremely complex, including their having had physical problems before that which led him to the porn, and then him getting interested not in &#8220;classical&#8221; models but other things (that we don&#8217;t need to go into), and him trying to get her into that mode, which didn&#8217;t really turn her on, etc. etc. into a downward spiral. I think that you should write more about the concept of the downward spiral (what pilots call a &#8220;death spiral&#8221;), and how many of the things that you write about contribute to the many parts of that spiral, but which, generally, in-and-of-themselves (that is, taken separately) are probably too simple to explain the complexities of relationship (or even individual) problems. &#8230; But you know this! <img src='http://www.PsychologyLounge.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Handle Mistakes–CBT Techniques for Gracefully Coping With Mistakes and Setbacks by Bev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart mom--teaching the process helps her learn it, and it&#039;s a nice gift to her children too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart mom&#8211;teaching the process helps her learn it, and it&#8217;s a nice gift to her children too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Handle Mistakes–CBT Techniques for Gracefully Coping With Mistakes and Setbacks by Joao Mognon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joao Mognon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good. About the people not caring about your mistakes because they are self centered: it&#039;s true. But isn&#039;t sometimes this the real point that makes us suffer about some of our mistakes? Not being helped or loved by others in the moment we really need them? Well. It&#039;s true you need not to depend on others to overcome your personal challenges and achieve happiness. But one side of the coin of happiness is &#039;not worrying about others&#039; and the other side is &#039;love others as much as you can&#039;. If you do so you may discover that you are not alone to overcome your mistakes. Perhaps the attitude of self-love is expanded when we add the love for the Self - in you and in others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good. About the people not caring about your mistakes because they are self centered: it&#8217;s true. But isn&#8217;t sometimes this the real point that makes us suffer about some of our mistakes? Not being helped or loved by others in the moment we really need them? Well. It&#8217;s true you need not to depend on others to overcome your personal challenges and achieve happiness. But one side of the coin of happiness is &#8216;not worrying about others&#8217; and the other side is &#8216;love others as much as you can&#8217;. If you do so you may discover that you are not alone to overcome your mistakes. Perhaps the attitude of self-love is expanded when we add the love for the Self &#8211; in you and in others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Radical Non-Defensiveness: The Most Important Communication Skill by Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.PsychologyLounge.com/2010/12/08/radical-non-defensiveness-the-most-important-communication-skill/#comment-55959</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Gottlieb, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the very interesting comment. I do agree that voice tone and body language makes a big difference, and I probably should have written more about these issues in defensiveness. Tone is terribly important. A sarcastic or insincere tone certainly can defeat the utility of non-defensive responding. What I find in clinical practice is that the more people practice these skills, particularly with some role playing and coaching, the better they get at both the content and the tone. I&#039;m reminded of a famous quote from the comedian George Burns, &quot;sincerity is the secret to life, once you can fake it you&#039;ve got it made!&quot;

I also think it&#039;s important to find your own style of non-defensive responding. You don&#039;t need to say &quot;I hear you saying.&quot; Instead a simple direct paraphrase, or &quot;Sounds like you are angry about X,&quot; will suffice. Find your own style, rather than copying anyone else&#039;s.

Mostly what your comment suggests is that some coaching or therapy is helpful to fine tune the use of these skills, and that just reading about them won&#039;t produce miraculous changes. I completely agree with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the very interesting comment. I do agree that voice tone and body language makes a big difference, and I probably should have written more about these issues in defensiveness. Tone is terribly important. A sarcastic or insincere tone certainly can defeat the utility of non-defensive responding. What I find in clinical practice is that the more people practice these skills, particularly with some role playing and coaching, the better they get at both the content and the tone. I&#8217;m reminded of a famous quote from the comedian George Burns, &#8220;sincerity is the secret to life, once you can fake it you&#8217;ve got it made!&#8221;</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s important to find your own style of non-defensive responding. You don&#8217;t need to say &#8220;I hear you saying.&#8221; Instead a simple direct paraphrase, or &#8220;Sounds like you are angry about X,&#8221; will suffice. Find your own style, rather than copying anyone else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Mostly what your comment suggests is that some coaching or therapy is helpful to fine tune the use of these skills, and that just reading about them won&#8217;t produce miraculous changes. I completely agree with this.</p>
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